Installment #2 of my podcast with the Innovise Guys is now online. You can find it on their website, or on iTunes.
Here’s what they wrote about this session: “In part two of the interview with Stephen M. Shapiro, author of Goal Free Living, Doug and Gregg riff on Shaprio’s 8 secrets. The energy is high and the content is dense and fascinating. All lightened by humorous Shapiro anecdotes and improvised sidetrips to connect the 8 secrets to creativity and innovation. This might be the funniest — and most relevant –interview the Innovise Guys have done to date.” Now, how can you not want to listen to that?!?