Innovation Insights
by Stephen Shapiro

between the lines

Between the Lines on PBS

My second book, Goal-Free Living, was published in 2006.

Not long after, I had the chance to appear on the PBS television show, Between the Lines with Barry Kibrick.

Barry is one of the best interviewers out there. Over the years, he’s sat down with incredible minds like Ron Howard, Ed Asner, Ridley Scott, Robert Greene, Walter Isaacson, and Neil deGrasse Tyson, among many others.

I was fortunate to be one of his guests. I hadn’t seen this interview in nearly two decades, until now. Barry recently shared it on his YouTube channel

I hope you enjoy it.